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May 09, 2022
Ukraine - Putin On Why The War Started, Failed Attempts On Snake Island, Other Issues
Updates below (17:15 UTC)
It is Victory Day. As Ernest Hemingway said:
Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.
The most important part of Vladimir Putin's speech to the Victory Parade on the Red Square is the narrative that explains how the current war in Ukraine began. Putin is correct in seeing this as a NATO proxy war against Russia:
[D]espite all controversies in international relations, Russia has always advocated the establishment of an equal and indivisible security system which is critically needed for the entire international community.Last December we proposed signing a treaty on security guarantees. Russia urged the West to hold an honest dialogue in search for meaningful and compromising solutions, and to take account of each other's interests. All in vain. NATO countries did not want to heed us, which means they had totally different plans. And we saw it.
Another punitive operation in Donbass, an invasion of our historic lands, including Crimea, was openly in the making. Kiev declared that it could attain nuclear weapons. The NATO bloc launched an active military build-up on the territories adjacent to us.
Thus, an absolutely unacceptable threat to us was steadily being created right on our borders. There was every indication that a clash with neo-Nazis and Banderites backed by the United States and their minions was unavoidable.
Let me repeat, we saw the military infrastructure being built up, hundreds of foreign advisors starting work, and regular supplies of cutting-edge weaponry being delivered from NATO countries. The threat grew every day.
Russia launched a pre-emptive strike at the aggression. It was a forced, timely and the only correct decision. A decision by a sovereign, strong and independent country.
The use of 'pre-emptive strike' is somewhat misleading. In fact the Ukraine started the war on Wednesday, February 16 2022, when its forces near the Donbas republics began preparatory artillery strikes for an all out ground attack on the Donbas republics.
The February 15 report of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission to Ukraine recorded some 41 explosions in the ceasefire areas. This increased to 76 explosions on Feb 16, 316 on Feb 17, 654 on Feb 18, 1413 on Feb 19, a total of 2026 of Feb 20 and 21 and 1484 on Feb 22.
The OSCE mission reports showed that the great majority of impact explosions of the artillery were on the separatist side of the ceasefire line.
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On February 19 the Ukrainian President Zelensky announced at the Munich Security Conference that the Ukraine would ditch the Budapest memorandum and all related agreements. The Budapest memorandum is about Ukraine committing to be a non-nuclear state.
Those two issues, an imminent ground attack on Donbas and the Ukraine threatening to strive for nuclear weapons, drove the Russian decision on February 21 to recognize the Donbas republics as independent states. (The legal precedence for doing such is the 'western' recognition of Kosovo as an independent state.)
Common defense agreements between the independent states and the Russian Federation were signed. Three days later, during which the Ukrainian attacks on the Donbas republics continued, Russian troops entered the Ukraine under Article 51 of the UN charter.
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Over the last days there were some interesting developments of the ground.
1. North of Karkov Russian troops are pulling back to shorten their frontline. The city will have to wait until the Donbas has been regained. The Ukraine again declares it is wining as it retakes the towns the Russians have earlier left.
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2. After heavy fighting Russian forces broke through the eastern Donbas front and conquered the heavily defended city of Popasna.
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MilitaryLand.net @Militarylandnet - 8:30 UTC · May 8, 2022
🗺️Ukrainian forces withdrew from Popasna to more favorable and fortified positions in the vicinity, the head of #Luhansk Oblast confirms #UkraineRussiaWar
The city is on a hill about 260 meters above sea level. This is about 100+ meters higher than the areas north, south and west of it. Artillery stationed on the hill will have a very good view and can reach deep into Ukrainian held grounds. It will be able to interdict resupplies on nearby roads to the Ukrainian front troops.
The Ukrainian army process of withdrawing to ever 'more favorable and fortified positions' will probably end in Lviv.
3. The Ukrainian military had launched a commando attack on Snake Island (in the semi circle 30 miles south of Odessa).
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However after previous Ukrainian air attacks Russian troops had already left the island and the Russian airforce had laid an ambush for the attack forces. The Russian Defense Ministry briefings mentioned Ukrainian losses around Snake (Zmeinyi) Island and related operations several times.
07.05.2022 (20:15):
The following have been shot down in the air near Zmeinyi Island: 1 Ukrainian Su-24 bomber, 1 Su-27 fighter jet, 3 Mi-8 helicopters with paratroopers and 2 Bayraktar-TB2 UAV. The Ukrainian amphibious assault boat Stanislav has also been destroyed.
08.05.2022 (10:45):
A Ukrainian naval corvette of project 1241 has also been destroyed near Odessa.
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During the night, Russian air defence means destroyed 2 more Ukrainian Su-24 bombers and 1 Mi-24 helicopter of the Ukrainian Air Force over Snake Island, and also shot down 1 Bayraktar-TB2 unmanned aerial vehicle near Odessa.A total of 4 Ukrainian aircraft, 4 helicopters, including 3 with paratroopers on board, 3 Bayraktar-TB2 UAV and 1 Ukrainian Navy amphibious assault boat have been destroyed in the area during the day.
08.05.2022 (19:30)
Russian air defence means have shot down 1 Bayraktar-TB2 unmanned aerial vehicles near Zmeinyi Island.
09.05.2022 (12:45)
Oniks high-precision missiles launched by Bastion coastal missile system near Artsiz, Odessa region, have destroyed Ukrainian helicopters at a bounce platform.
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Three Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles, including two Bayraktar-TB2, have been hit over Snake Island.
(Bounce platform is a mistranslation for a helicopter supply pad that is not a full airport.
The operation was quite costly for the Ukrainian side. Besides the 60+ paratroopers who were killed during the assault one of the helicopter also had the deputy commander of the Ukrainian navy on board. Today it was announced that Col. Ihor Bedzai was killed in action when his helicopter came under Russian airforce fire.
More than 4 helicopters, 4 jets and 6 Bayraktar drones were lost for zero gain. The U.S. is in the process of giving the Ukraine a total of 16 Mi-17 transport helicopters that were originally supposed to go to Afghanistan. At the current Ukrainian rate of losses such supplies, just like others, will not last for long.
Under the current circumstances Snake Island is of little military value. It seems that the sole point of the Ukrainian operation to retake it was to create a propaganda item for today's Victory Parade. It now is one but for the Russian side.
Update 17:15 UTC:
The last briefing (09.05.2022 (19:15) by the Russian Defense Ministry (published after the above post) again mentions Snake Island:
According to the updated information, 6 Mi-8 and Mi-24 helicopters have been destroyed during the night near Artsiz in Odessa Region near the Chervonoglinskoe military airfield by Onyks high-precision missiles from the Bastion coastal missile system.
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On 7 May, on direct orders from Zelensky, the Ukrainian General Staff, with the direct involvement of advisers from the USA and Britain, planned a major provocation to seize Zmeiny Island.Over the past two days, the Kiev regime has made several desperate attempts to land air and sea assaults on Zmeiny Island, which is important for controlling the northwestern part of the Black Sea.
The Ukrainian provocation was thwarted as a result of the competent actions of a Russian Armed Forces unit on the island. The enemy suffered heavy losses.
4 Ukrainian airplanes, including 3 Su-24 and 1 Su-27, 3 Mi-8 helicopters with paratroopers on board, and 1 Mi-24 helicopter have been shot down in the air while repelling the attacks near Zmeiny Island.
Within two days, 29 Ukrainian UAVs have been shot down in the air, including 8 Bayraktar TB-2 strike UAVs. Meanwhile, 4 Bayraktar drones have been shot down this afternoon.
Also, 3 armoured Ukrainian amphibious assault boats carrying Ukrainian naval personnel were destroyed during an attempted landing on the night of May 8.
As a result of Zelensky's thoughtless provocation, more than 50 Ukrainian saboteurs have been killed at sea and on the coast during the landing and attempts to consolidate on the island.
24 bodies of dead Ukrainian servicemen were left on the shore of Zmeiny Island.
Posted by b on May 9, 2022 at 16:20 UTC | Permalink
Comments
Posted by: psychohistorian | May 11 2022 0:31 utc | 396
"Do you folks remember the Fairness Doctrine in US media that existed from 1949 until 1986?
And the League of Women Voters used to run the national debates."
Well, I grew up in England so....
But it was a kindler, gentler era media-wise, Cronkite and all.
Though if you ever read some of the stuff Intelligence was up to already back then they were deep into the dark arts whilst the general population was Bewitched, laughing and loving Lucy and Mary Tyler Moore!
It occurred to me that part of the purpose of the 60's youth movement which some claim the CIA crowd helped launch was to split the generations. Since then we've had splitting of genders, splitting of races, splitting of Reds and Blues, splitting of gender within individuals, splitting of Whites from their past achievements, you name it, they split it.
With a depression and/or collapse on the way, seemingly, perhaps we're about to find out what their end game is.
My best explanation - which cannot be true but fits much of the fact pattern and as we all know truth is stranger than fiction - is that the West is in the grip of a bunch of organized Satanists. Splitting societies, destroying civilizations, turning people into slaves, creating hell out of the relative paradise we call Earth is just what they do....
Posted by: Scorpion | May 11 2022 4:21 utc | 402
Thanks for the write up, B! I very much look forward to reading them.
Having said that, the US is now sending 44 BILLION MORE for Ukie weapons and "aid".
The mind blowing amount of money being sent to Ukraine, while infant formula is in SERIOUS shortage here and more become homeless, for example, has me deeply suspicious.
Everything the US sends will be DESTROYED by the RF forces
So WHERE is that money REALLY going???
Posted by: Kay | May 11 2022 5:37 utc | 403
@ Kay | May 11 2022 5:37 utc | 403
answer to your question - wall st, and the military industry complex... they are hoping to stave off the inevitable here... keep the ponzi scheme going, however they can.. this is a last resort.. war is always a last resort.. they don't give a fuck about ukrainians or the world in general... it is all about money.. its a sickness that plagues the planet.. the politicians support it too...
Posted by: james | May 11 2022 5:47 utc | 404
384 - De Gaulle released OAS people he had had jailed years before in 1968. OAS had tried to kill him (the real-life basis of the fictional "Day Of The Jackal") but the left in 1968 loomed more as a threat than the far right OAS. Maybe he even thought that he might need OAS people if the "events" continued.
Cohn-Bendit's subsequent evolution makes it possible he was always phony, or an asset. Or maybe he just became disillusioned.
Posted by: Waldorf | May 11 2022 5:47 utc | 405
BillB | May 10 2022 16:53 utc | 350
re "...US made it clear it was not sharing any nuclear information with anyone, including WWII allies Britain (and Canada) immediately after the end of the war...
Thanks your input and the reference to the debacle at Windscale Pu [and later tritium] plant.
Monopoly, exclusion of others, privilege, unwillingness to share...promote trouble.
Posted by: chu teh | May 11 2022 8:52 utc | 406
Posted by: S | May 9 2022 21:17 utc | 103
Thank you for such an informative and yet sad post.
It will aid many here in trying to convey to others the realities of the slide to nazism that is occurring. I will certainly refer to your post in my future conversations surrounding this highly fraught situation.
Here's hoping we don't have to go through the same level of suffering in order to quash this anti-human menace.
Thanks again, S.
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | May 11 2022 8:54 utc | 407
I was sorry to hear about Ukrainian commander pilot Igor Bedzai's death. He was commander here at Novofedorovka before the Russians took over. This was a small base in the village - everybody knew everybody and they were severely underfunded as many of the Ukie bases and soldiers were. This was because of the Standard Corruption that has plagued the people of Ukraine and is still ongoing. I knew quite a number of Ukie Navy Men here - back then - what a shame this slav war has become. But Russia can't allow the Western Zionist Crime Syndicate to win.
Posted by: GMC | May 11 2022 10:59 utc | 408
What kind of Nazi's have a Jewish president for a leader?
Did they read Mein Kampf? The tattoos are very tacky.
I don't think they are anything close to National Socialist as described in the book.
This is the least discussed topic so far.
Posted by: kurt | May 11 2022 11:16 utc | 409
Waldorf | May 11 2022 5:47 utc | 405
Cohn-Bendt
For me he was a plant to "direct" the manifs in whatever a manner was wanted. (Divide and conquer?) Nothing seems to suggest he was disillusioned, as the evident pleasure he had at lecturing the EU Parliament and at other public venues became more visible. I became disillusioned in turn, at his betrayal of what I then assumed were the values to have.
He had less effect during the riots than he later claimed. He was just a "big-mouth, one of...the speakers".
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One thing I do remember clearly is that De Gaulle had tanks waiting on the outskirts of Paris - for use if his speech had had no effect. I saw them when leaving for Switzerland. (after two months, at the "end" when transport once again became feasable. We were literally cut off.) The OAS might have been his back-up if the Army decided to "change" sides? Or is trusting your enemies one step too far?
Posted by: Stonebird | May 11 2022 11:48 utc | 410
When I take a look at the German press, it says exactly the opposite of this blog.
Russia is trying to strengthen its forces on the strategically important Snake Island, according to British intelligence. Ukraine, however, could avert this through drone attacks.
(From Die Welt, Ukrainische Drohnenangriffe verhindern offenbar russische Dominanz im Schwarzen Meer)
It's as if we're talking about another planet.
Posted by: Passerby | May 11 2022 11:50 utc | 411
It's interesting that the Mi-17 helicopters now being provided by the U.S. to the Ukraine are Russian-made and originally intended to be sent to Afghanistan.
Posted by: Cesar Jeopardy | May 11 2022 17:26 utc | 412
The war started in 2014 and what followed were 8 years of Russian false flags. It's such a shame the truth keeps getting ignored by people who worship the ground Putin walks on.
Hemingway was a fool.
Posted by: Quartermaster | May 13 2022 10:40 utc | 413
Posted by: james | May 11 2022 2:20 utc | 400
Thank you James.
I have to ask. Do you think:
a) D.D.E coined the phrase,
b) D.D.E read asian philosphy,
c) D.D.E got a fortune-cookie at a (presumably different) Chinese restuarant, or,
d) Other, and this is totally OT.
Regards,
Jonathan
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | May 14 2022 11:32 utc | 414
Source: https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/ukraine-putin-on-why-the-war-started-failed-attempts-on-snake-island-other-issues-.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef0282e154b2c9200b
I have it on good, very good authority, that Russia definitely will win this war; and be in a petition to dictate terms afterwards. Then, as the NATO countries implode from their own ill-advised sanctions boomeranging back on them, the big money boys will move their $$$billions into the Russian markets.
Posted by: Citizenfitz | May 11 2022 3:32 utc | 401